DDK - Die Deutschen Klassiker

All,
My car is stillrunning stock brakes which explains why I ve sailed through a couple of roundabouts of late

Allowing for the car I have and without wanting to emulate Jenson Button on the road whats a good option to progress to, SC/Turbo/964 brakes what should I get, what does the car need..definietly a winter must..

Thanks

James - I can't remember what your 'std' brake set-up consists of but the S or RS std system in top condition - when fitted with decent fast road pads - should be able to cope with your car's power. You just need to learn to push harder !

Most brake upgrades for early 911's serve two purposes - firstly to reduce brake fade by improving heat dissipation (via larger pads/discs) & secondly reduce your bank balance by a disproportionate margin ! Any brake upgrade invariably also increases unsprung weight too.

Check out Bill Verburg's excellent brake upgrade advice:

http://home.nycap.rr.com/wmv/generalbrmd.htm

I would check your current system, drain the brake fluid & replace with a good DOT4 fluid (like ATE Super Blue) & fit some new high quality fast road pads (something like Pagid Black or Blue).

the most cost effective way is just to upgrade to SC calipers with good pads, using your existing disc's as long as they are ok. Its what I have and they are great.

The other end of the scale is a boxster conversion, using boxster calipers and 3.2 carrera disc's, which you can even have cross drilled... 2 grand!

I will be using 3.2 Carrera calipers and discs with my 3.6. Only because I had them in the garage.

Mike and Andy are both giving good info.

I also have some GT3 Calipers if anyone wants to go mad

Regards
Derek

I have just done mine for a 3.2 powered 71 car and originally was going down the 964 route, (see Bill's site) as they can fit in 15inch wheels. In the end I went for the 3.2 set up all round, these run wider discs than the SC and also the rear pistons are larger.

If you go down the Boxster route there is a chap in the US that sells the adaptors and fixing gear pretty cheap, then just find the calipers and 3.2 discs.

Alan.UK

"A" calipers off an SC with pagid fast road pads is the easiest cheapest and most effective option.
You can also go the dual master cylinder route if you want more braking power and I believe you can add a servo from an old merc if you're really keen

Bill Verbugs website is the best place to look

thanks all - I think the SC route will suit me - its just for extra confidence and i think it'll be more than enough for my application. Great advice all!

Alan

Do you have a contact for the bogster adapters?

Derek

I am running 3.2 brakes Wide A and let me just say that they are phenominal. I am so impressed.. they slow me down from warp factor to 0 in a blink of a eye.

Mine are just restored by Classicar and I am running braided Goodridge hoses.

In future I am gonna go for drilled rotors pagid fast road pads. Should be even better, but I don't need to do it so its on the back burner.

There's a guy on ddk that does the necessary brackets for the boxter adapters - I think it's Rod somebody (just checked - it's Rod) - he does the suspension strut braces - he was at Husborne on Saturday next to me - currently working on his own backdate project.

I think from memory he was charging £65 for the brackets. There was an article about how to do the conversion in 911&PW a few months back - Autofarm were offering their own kit to do it. I'm not entirely sure but I believe this may have actually cost a fraction more than £65

I'd be interested myself in the future as long as they will fit inside 15 inch Fuchs

Cheers

Mark

Here is the link Derek, the guy (Glenn) is at the bottom of the list

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthre ... ht=boxster

HTH

Alan.UK

Cheers Alan and Sladey.

Derek