DDK - Die Deutschen Klassiker

knapmann wrote:

KS wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:40 pm Extensive fire damage automatically gets Cat B status regardless of whether a specialist can restore it. I wonder what the payout was from the insurance company?

If the shell has to be scrapped to meet the legal requirements of Cat B, how much value is there left in the rest of the car as it stands?

whats the definition of extensive though... i would not call that extensive IMO... when you see some restorations, including ones on this forum where >80% of the body gets replaced it seems pretty scandalous that this cannot be classed as repairable when it probably just needs a couple of rear wings and a new deck lid.

According to the internet you can't challenge a Cat B decision, so sadly it is destined for the crusher regardless. I agree it looks totally fixable but nothing anyone can do.

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tim69s wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:46 pm As a Cat B the auction house won't let it leave their site unless the purchaser is a licensed car breaker.
However, they do have a service where you can go and strip the car yourself at their facility and then they send the shell to be crushed.
So technically any of us could win the auction and then turn up in a van with tools and salvage all the good parts.

How much time are there for the winning bidder to salvage all the good parts before they send the shell to be crushed? i.e. Is there a time limit?

A full working day, so you'd want a couple of people and some power tools.

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Lets start a campaign to save it, and go down there and chain ourselves to it !

What’s the definition of ‘crushing the shell’ following salvaging parts?
Can you save all the removable body panels? Can you save body parts by cutting them off including the roof?
Can you take tanks (petrol and oil?), engine and gearbox? Wheels?

Just how much has to be left to crush?

Regards
Mike

tim69s wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:07 pm A full working day

I didn't mean that. I mean what if the winning bidder is on holiday and will not be back for a few weeks? Will the site wait for him and if so, how long maximum?

Surely that’s a candidate to be put in a container and sent to Aus or Japan, to be born again?

Surely somebody on here must know the car, or its owner - it's pretty distinctive and with a memorable registration number.

From what I been led to understand, you won't be able to take body cuts of any kind, but bolt-on panels like doors, bonnet etc, are fair game.

I know of a 930 that caught fire in a similar fashion and was repaired and put back on the road - the difference is that no insurance claim was made, the repairs being funded by the owner. Had a claim been made the it too would almost certainly have ended up as a Cat B, stripped and the VIN-bearing shell crushed.

It's a sad state of affairs but I can see why the insurance industry doesn't want to spend time looking at claims on an individual basis when there will be so many car fires every day, week, month or year - especially these days...

IanM wrote:

tim69s wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:07 pm A full working day

I didn't mean that. I mean what if the winning bidder is on holiday and will not be back for a few weeks? Will the site wait for him and if so, how long maximum?

You get to book a date, first 30 days of storage included. All details on this webpage
https://www.copart.co.uk/BreakerBid4U

Worth noting the fuel tank will be drilled and I suppose the oil tank too if they find it.

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tim69s wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:12 amYou get to book a date, first 30 days of storage included. All details on this webpage
https://www.copart.co.uk/BreakerBid4U

Worth noting the fuel tank will be drilled and I suppose the oil tank too if they find it.

Thanks for the info.

Anyway, according to this, non-members cannot bid higher than £500. Is that right?

https://www.copart.co.uk/content/uk/en/ ... on-members

Do you have to be a licenced breaker to become a member or can anybody become a member?

Anyone can be a member, costs a hundred quid I think.

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The fees add up.

For example:

Hammer (Sale) Price £5000.00

Auction Fees £469.00

Internet Conv. Fee £65.00

Lot Retrieval Fee £40.00

Bay Rental £200.00

Total £5774.00

VAT @20% £1154.80

Grand Total £6928.80


Plus transportation to a nearest breaking facility (York in my case) whatever that costs. And one or two additional bay rental days @ £125+VAT per day.

What happens if the reserve is not met when the auction has ended?

Northy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:28 am Surely that’s a candidate to be put in a container and sent to Aus or Japan, to be born again?

According to their FAQ's:

I am an overseas buyer and have export licences, can I use this service to buy CAT B’s and export them out of the UK?
Under no circumstances can CAT B vehicles bought via BreakerBid4U be taken away.

IanM wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 5:11 pmPlus transportation to a nearest breaking facility (York in my case) whatever that costs.

Unfortunately non-members can't get a quote.

Are there any members here reading this thread?

In the below link, there is a heading 'Delivery Quote' under the set of photos. All it takes is type in the post code and click the calculate button.

The post code of the York facility is YO41 1HS
I would greatly appreciate it if someone can let me know.

https://www.copart.co.uk/lot/66986043/1 ... 1-sandwich

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