Another early S bites the dust

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Another early S bites the dust

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That is very sad to see. I get complacent thinking that only carburettor cars suffer from these issues. Obviously not so. I have a fire safety stick extinguisher but hope I never have to use it.
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im surprised that gets a CAT B and must be broken, looks easily salvageable to me?
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knapmann wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:24 am im surprised that gets a CAT B and must be broken, looks easily salvageable to me?
Wondered that too. Was thinking about how intense the fire got and the extent of damage (burned out hoses, electrics, magnesium inferno, extent of structural damage, etc ...). Rear interior looks ok, so must have been extinguished pretty quickly?? Another one for the brave.

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Absolutely. Unless the car was terminally ill from rust throughout I’m not sure how that gets a CatB?

Maybe because the engine (no pics) has melted and is theoretically irreplaceable? I guess even a like for like complete S lump is going to be big money.
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Well supposedly a CAT B means "unrepairable chassis damage (but parts can be salvaged)" - i.e. it is not written off due to the cost to fix, but that it is fundamentally unrepairable. Doesnt look that difficult to repair to me even if the engine is toast. I wonder who decides what "unrepairable" is and if its possible to challenge the decision/category i.e. pay for a second opinion. If I was the owner theres no way I would accept that decision lightly based off the photos
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Totally agree. Seeing as you can build new a car from the floor up there is nothing that can’t be repaired.
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That’s a very very valuable interior to the right person.


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Extensive fire damage automatically gets Cat B status regardless of whether a specialist can restore it. I wonder what the payout was from the insurance company?

If the shell has to be scrapped to meet the legal requirements of Cat B, how much value is there left in the rest of the car as it stands?
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Not much if the engine/box have gone?
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What is the reserve price?
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Easy fix as said. Odd decision made by DVLA?
If covered by Agreed Value then deal done I suppose.

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That's ripe for export and resto somewhere else. I like having RHD over here as it means my passenger can deal with car park payments. :)
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KS wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:40 pm Extensive fire damage automatically gets Cat B status regardless of whether a specialist can restore it. I wonder what the payout was from the insurance company?

If the shell has to be scrapped to meet the legal requirements of Cat B, how much value is there left in the rest of the car as it stands?
whats the definition of extensive though... i would not call that extensive IMO... when you see some restorations, including ones on this forum where >80% of the body gets replaced it seems pretty scandalous that this cannot be classed as repairable when it probably just needs a couple of rear wings and a new deck lid.
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Re: Another early S bites the dust

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As a Cat B the auction house won't let it leave their site unless the purchaser is a licensed car breaker.
However, they do have a service where you can go and strip the car yourself at their facility and then they send the shell to be crushed.
So technically any of us could win the auction and then turn up in a van with tools and salvage all the good parts.
I've been pondering on this all day, but have no where to store it all unfortunately.
Someone should do it.

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