Work on the 109 begins...
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Work on the 109 begins...
After the distraction of my 356 I've decided to crack on with the 109 as I can't bare to have stuff not working!
I have a few concerns...
1) The diesel pump is kippered.
2) The head is cracked at the glow plug seat. It looks cracked between the valves in the picture but it's just a score.
3) It probably needs a starter rebuild - I have the one from my A111 for now.
Got the barrel & piston back on & mock built it all up, I had to as its been well over a year since I last worked on it! Had the fuel injector reconditioned, fitted a new glow plug, had the head skimmed & lapped it to the barrel, lapped the valves & put a new pre heat indicator in so we'll see!
So, got a feeling my bank balance is going to plummet but hey ho it's gotta run!
Gill.
I have a few concerns...
1) The diesel pump is kippered.
2) The head is cracked at the glow plug seat. It looks cracked between the valves in the picture but it's just a score.
3) It probably needs a starter rebuild - I have the one from my A111 for now.
Got the barrel & piston back on & mock built it all up, I had to as its been well over a year since I last worked on it! Had the fuel injector reconditioned, fitted a new glow plug, had the head skimmed & lapped it to the barrel, lapped the valves & put a new pre heat indicator in so we'll see!
So, got a feeling my bank balance is going to plummet but hey ho it's gotta run!
Gill.
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Re: Work on the 109 begins...
Gill, who did the injector rebuild for you - mine were reconditioned by the local Bosch agent but one of them still leaks....
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Re: Work on the 109 begins...
Fred at Tower Bridge Diesels gets my vote every time!
Chris
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A guy near me in Chesterfield Ian. The old man took it for me as he's retired now & has plenty of time!
Charged me £30 & it came back like new.
Gill.
Charged me £30 & it came back like new.
Gill.
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Forgot to ask, has any one had a P-D diesel pump rebuilt?
I'm going to attempt to pressure test it this weekend but I'm almost sure es ist kaput.
Gill.
I'm going to attempt to pressure test it this weekend but I'm almost sure es ist kaput.
Gill.
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Chris,
my father spoke to Fred yesterday about it (he does all their Pagoda pumps) but he didn't seem too keen!
Ian
my father spoke to Fred yesterday about it (he does all their Pagoda pumps) but he didn't seem too keen!
Ian
1966 912 Karmann Coupe - polo red.
1972 914/6 GT replica - 2.7 - signal orange.
1961 Standard 217 Tractor.
2003 Boxster S.
1967 Alfa Giulia Sprint GT Veloce.
http://www.redcastleclassics.com
1972 914/6 GT replica - 2.7 - signal orange.
1961 Standard 217 Tractor.
2003 Boxster S.
1967 Alfa Giulia Sprint GT Veloce.
http://www.redcastleclassics.com
Re: Work on the 109 begins...
You can get pump reconditioning parts from Jens Senger.
http://shop.senger-traktorteile.de/cate ... e.126.html
I think Fred would be happier if he knows you can supply the parts required.
Chris
http://shop.senger-traktorteile.de/cate ... e.126.html
I think Fred would be happier if he knows you can supply the parts required.
Chris
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I take it that's Fred at the aforementioned Tower Diesels?
Strange that as my local firm (on the next street) Foxwood Diesel in Chesterfield didn't seem too keen, until I mentioned I may be able to procure the parts. I think when you say Porsche it freaks people out! Mind you, several emails to previously reliable P-D parts dealers have yet to receive a reply... Pity as they reached the several hundred quid mark - as they often do! I'll wait with baited breath!
Gill.
Strange that as my local firm (on the next street) Foxwood Diesel in Chesterfield didn't seem too keen, until I mentioned I may be able to procure the parts. I think when you say Porsche it freaks people out! Mind you, several emails to previously reliable P-D parts dealers have yet to receive a reply... Pity as they reached the several hundred quid mark - as they often do! I'll wait with baited breath!
Gill.
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Wrong on two levels...
Head & pump both fine! I built it up Saturday & it fired straight up! The only issue I had is that someone had messed with the fuel metering setting on the governor, so the engine fired up & once warm hit the red line. Fortunately I had a thick hoody nearby & managed to pack the air intake to starve the engine of air. Caveat, anyone rebuilding one in the future please make sure you have something to hand to stop the air entering the engine or it will blow up! Anyone who's sceptical search runaway diesel engine on You Tube.
The oil industry acknowledges this as it's an industry standard that all diesel engines operating where ambient air may contain hydrocarbon vapours must have an air intake shut-off valve.
So, I re set the governor & it's on the key! Really chuffed - I even managed a drive round the block! I have an oil leak to address from the push rod tube & a new governor spring to fit but hopefully no head or pump to shell out on.
Gill
Head & pump both fine! I built it up Saturday & it fired straight up! The only issue I had is that someone had messed with the fuel metering setting on the governor, so the engine fired up & once warm hit the red line. Fortunately I had a thick hoody nearby & managed to pack the air intake to starve the engine of air. Caveat, anyone rebuilding one in the future please make sure you have something to hand to stop the air entering the engine or it will blow up! Anyone who's sceptical search runaway diesel engine on You Tube.
The oil industry acknowledges this as it's an industry standard that all diesel engines operating where ambient air may contain hydrocarbon vapours must have an air intake shut-off valve.
So, I re set the governor & it's on the key! Really chuffed - I even managed a drive round the block! I have an oil leak to address from the push rod tube & a new governor spring to fit but hopefully no head or pump to shell out on.
Gill
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Re: Work on the 109 begins...
Great news Gill
looks great with the 356
looks great with the 356
1966 912 Karmann Coupe - polo red.
1972 914/6 GT replica - 2.7 - signal orange.
1961 Standard 217 Tractor.
2003 Boxster S.
1967 Alfa Giulia Sprint GT Veloce.
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1967 Alfa Giulia Sprint GT Veloce.
http://www.redcastleclassics.com
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Re: Work on the 109 begins...
That's great . New underpants after that initial start-up? Can't imagine anything much more terrifying .
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Oh, forgive my ignorance: what's the engine size?
I had a Field Marshall work it's way up the long hill outside the house the other weekend. It seemed to take about half an hour, and it was quite close before I could work out what the hell was making the sound.
Have to confess I had a Fordson Standard when I was twelve (well, half Major, half Standard really), so a bit fond of an old tractor.
In fact, there's a very early grey Ferguson nearby that keeping asking to come home with me. Since Dad has one already, it's very tempting!
I had a Field Marshall work it's way up the long hill outside the house the other weekend. It seemed to take about half an hour, and it was quite close before I could work out what the hell was making the sound.
Have to confess I had a Fordson Standard when I was twelve (well, half Major, half Standard really), so a bit fond of an old tractor.
In fact, there's a very early grey Ferguson nearby that keeping asking to come home with me. Since Dad has one already, it's very tempting!
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They're 822cc & 14hp Barry.
Yes it was a bit lairy but thankfully we caught it in plenty of time. I'd love a Field Marshall - crazy money now. My friend in Sheffield had one when we were about 18 & sold it for £4k - it's worth 3 times that now! It's interesting starting them with the cartridge.
We just bought a TVO grey Fergie last week, an old boy up the road sold it us for £850.
Cheers.
Gill
Yes it was a bit lairy but thankfully we caught it in plenty of time. I'd love a Field Marshall - crazy money now. My friend in Sheffield had one when we were about 18 & sold it for £4k - it's worth 3 times that now! It's interesting starting them with the cartridge.
We just bought a TVO grey Fergie last week, an old boy up the road sold it us for £850.
Cheers.
Gill
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tell me about it. Last year my TDI Volvo "blew" the turbo after a 70mph run and oil leaked straight into the inlet. It instantly went full blast, no response to throttle or even the key! Put the clutch in and it red lined. I managed to get the revs down by braking hard and releasing the clutch in a high gear which got it under control. All over in a few seconds but somewhat alarming.Barry wrote:That's great . New underpants after that initial start-up? Can't imagine anything much more terrifying .
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Oh yeah it's full meltdown material!
I remember a Perkins P6 powered scrap yard magnet crane shooting across the car park at my local scrap yard. One of the blokes fed it some easy start & hit the button & boom off it went - it was stuck in gear!
The thing was literally bouncing off the perimeter wall - must've been strong.
Gill
I remember a Perkins P6 powered scrap yard magnet crane shooting across the car park at my local scrap yard. One of the blokes fed it some easy start & hit the button & boom off it went - it was stuck in gear!
The thing was literally bouncing off the perimeter wall - must've been strong.
Gill
1959 356A UK RHD AFN no. 400
1962 Porsche - Diesel Junior 109
1962 Porsche - Diesel Junior 109