I've just agreed a deal on a new house some quiet backwater off the end of gas pipeline and it has LPG heating.
Does anyone here have experience of this? It seems no matter how long you spend on the Calor or other suppliers websites no one will tell you how much it costs!
Whilst normal gas and electric are very open about it, this is like some closed shop. First rule of LPG supply costs, you don't talk about LPG supply costs. Second rule... etc.
Whilst comparing one house to another is meaningless, I can't find anything that gives some kind of cost per kWh comparison and costs per unit.
I pay 43p per litre currently. It is the most expensive heat. Affected by oil price obviously. Always keen on upward changes but strangely they are not so keen to reduce prices when the oil price comes down. When oil was $150 a barrel I was at 50p per litre but the year before when oil prices were nearer what they are now I was in th 25p area. You can fix the price with my supplier (BP) for up to two years at a discount but that is the same guessing game as a fixed price mortgage.
If you live with someone who only sees two settings on the thermostat , 'Carribean' and 'Tropical' I would be ready for some big bills.
I have had LPG for 25 years and with the added purchase of extra jumpers and a more reasonable central heating partner happy with 'temperate' I could have had a fleet of early 911's by now. Be warned, it is expensive and there is not the same competition in the market as with other energy suppliers.
As an aside I have installed a ground source heat pump at property elsewhere which is the way to go on a new build (if you think you will stay for 7 years or more).
Regards
Mike
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I'd only add that the best way forward is to make sure your insulation is up to scratch.
200 or possibly 300 mm of insulation in the roofspace, decent cavity wall insulation and then effective double glazing. Check that external doors and windows have decent seals round the openings, (simply run our hand round any openng windows and feel for draughts. Decent curtains on windows also help. Thermostatic valves on the radiators or zoned heating as well
The irony is ofcourse, that you still need ventilation, otherwise you get condensation issues. So if there are vents in the bathroom and kitchen windows keep them open.
MikeB wrote:I'd only add that the best way forward is to make sure your insulation is up to scratch.
200 or possibly 300 mm of insulation in the roofspace, decent cavity wall insulation and then effective double glazing. Check that external doors and windows have decent seals round the openings, (simply run our hand round any openng windows and feel for draughts. Decent curtains on windows also help. Thermostatic valves on the radiators or zoned heating as well
The irony is ofcourse, that you still need ventilation, otherwise you get condensation issues. So if there are vents in the bathroom and kitchen windows keep them open.
It's a new house, so I hope so! It's timber framed inside the brick, and from what I can see inside the garage (the rest is already plastered) it seems pretty packed with insulation, so at least the garage should be toasty
The more I read the more solar water heating looks tempting, must do some more browsing...
A new house should be massively well insulated Gary and they have to use condensing boilers now too, so it shouldn't be quite so bad as in an older, less well insulated house.
Good luck with the move
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Have had LPG for 10 years........................1 tank to 7 houses ............we were told £150000 for a gas pipe so LPG was a fait a complis by developer!................we just negotiated from 43p down to 38.5 with Calor , Flogas anothetr provider similar rate................our price fixed for 6 months covers the winter months at least ..........................i think reliable provider crucial , we ve only run out once ,bit of a catch 22 thick snow , everybody using full on, tanker cud nt get up the lane........................if ther was ever a choice i d take anything else , everything else seems cheaper!
A colleague's brother is the manager of a big Calor depot. He has, in the last few years, installed a new heatingg system in his house. He uses OIL, nuff said !!
Tim
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Cheers for all the information Unfortunately I don't have a choice with this house, it's LPG or freeze! I'll look further into the solar water heating option, as that looks viable. They seems to be two takes on solar heating though, one is it costs about £1700, the other it is about £8000!!
I'm currently wading through all the conspiracy theories about Chinese solar panels and thermosyphons (what?) to try and find some element of fact. Always challenging as each person is clearly biased to the system they have installed, or the one that they sell.
It's worse than trying to find a reliable Porsche specialist (no offence to resident Porsche specialists! ) that everyone agrees on.
