New MOT legislation and more...
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Didn’t say it wasn’t useful ... FACTS are ... not second guessing and thus scaremongering
No point stating guess work as FACT.
We should keep the thread rolling , but also try and back up statements with fact
No point stating guess work as FACT.
We should keep the thread rolling , but also try and back up statements with fact
James
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Re: New MOT legislation and more...
Mind you ... if it stops pics of boxsters being posted then let’s keep going

James
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Its not how fast you go, but how you go fast
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1963 Honda C100 Supercub
Its not how fast you go, but how you go fast
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Re: New MOT legislation and more...
hot66 wrote:Mind you ... if it stops pics of boxsters being posted then let’s keep going![]()
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(Joke before anyone takes offence
James
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2010 987 Spyder
1963 Honda C100 Supercub
Its not how fast you go, but how you go fast
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Its not how fast you go, but how you go fast
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Re: New MOT legislation and more...
I only started this thread because there was a huge gap created by the absence of photos of you driving your car... 
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Re: New MOT legislation and more...
Driving cars? What witchcraft is this?
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New MOT legislation and more...


James
1973 911 2.4S
1993 964 C2
2010 987 Spyder
1963 Honda C100 Supercub
Its not how fast you go, but how you go fast
1973 911 2.4S
1993 964 C2
2010 987 Spyder
1963 Honda C100 Supercub
Its not how fast you go, but how you go fast
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Keith, if you are gathering real world examples, here's mine in case helpful:
After converting my 914 to GT (ish) spec, I had the workshop in Wales detail on their invoice the installation of the 3.0 6 pot engine.
I sent that invoice and my V5 off to DVLA, and 4 weeks later the revised V5 came back. No questions from DVLA.
This was all processed by them only last month.
After converting my 914 to GT (ish) spec, I had the workshop in Wales detail on their invoice the installation of the 3.0 6 pot engine.
I sent that invoice and my V5 off to DVLA, and 4 weeks later the revised V5 came back. No questions from DVLA.
This was all processed by them only last month.
James
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Cheers. This requiring 'proof' of an engine swap is definitely relatively new. My 912/6 conversion was OK'd without, but then that was two years ago now.
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This must be causing havoc in the world of vws uncle Keith? There's a huge number of aircooled cars out there with different floor pans and engines? How would the authorities know what sits with what when there's probably no record of what's actually happened?
Peter
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And narrowed beams on beetles / raised cab floors on busestheorangeperil wrote:This must be causing havoc in the world of vws uncle Keith? There's a huge number of aircooled cars out there with different floor pans and engines? How would the authorities know what sits with what when there's probably no record of what's actually happened?
This has been a really eye opening thread to me, and like Graham, with a RHD converted car with a huge increase in power to weight (mine about 300% as it was 1.7
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'You see Paul, hill climbing is like making love to a beautiful woman. You get your motor running, check your fluids, hang on tight and WHOA..30 seconds later it's all over!' Swiss Tony
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Well (just my view), you'd be insane to do a project to try and make your car iva compliant on the basis of a what might be. Unless you wanted to anyway.
We know two things as far as I can see.
1 the MoT change where you'll have to declare your car's fitness for being MoT exempt
2 DVLA/DVSA poo in the mega-modded hot rod world with some real-world examples.
However, the connection between the two that all (or even a subset of) modded historics will have their V5s revoked and need an IVA test is conjecture.
Why would you not wait and see?
Graham
We know two things as far as I can see.
1 the MoT change where you'll have to declare your car's fitness for being MoT exempt
2 DVLA/DVSA poo in the mega-modded hot rod world with some real-world examples.
However, the connection between the two that all (or even a subset of) modded historics will have their V5s revoked and need an IVA test is conjecture.
Why would you not wait and see?
Graham
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We do have to wait to see what come out of the initial mayhem across the classic car, the customised car the race car worlds and others I'm sure.
I am not too clear, but I believe there will be a guideline paper for us Classic modified guys in November 17.
I have emailed again to the authority about this, second email, first a week ago un answered. I hope this shows they are drowning in email questions.
They have invited questions to : roadworthinesstesting@dft.gsi.gov.uk
In the mean time, those who feel affected should try to understand the implications of the new system and even consider removing the mods to get 'out' of this body shell issue.
Converting to LHD would be possible for me, but it makes imho a safe car a dangerous car. That is not my welding skills but the use of a LHD car in a RHD country.
The IVA have a special test system for LHD car being imported today.
Ironically, you may have to modify your classic to meet the demands for testing modified cars....clear Government thinking at it best.
I am not too clear, but I believe there will be a guideline paper for us Classic modified guys in November 17.
I have emailed again to the authority about this, second email, first a week ago un answered. I hope this shows they are drowning in email questions.
They have invited questions to : roadworthinesstesting@dft.gsi.gov.uk
In the mean time, those who feel affected should try to understand the implications of the new system and even consider removing the mods to get 'out' of this body shell issue.
Converting to LHD would be possible for me, but it makes imho a safe car a dangerous car. That is not my welding skills but the use of a LHD car in a RHD country.
The IVA have a special test system for LHD car being imported today.
Ironically, you may have to modify your classic to meet the demands for testing modified cars....clear Government thinking at it best.
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Hello,
My 69t came from SA in 2000, the 2L (T) engine was replaced before it came into the UK with a 2.2L (T) The body has not been modified at all as far as I now and still looks like a narrow body.
Would it keep the original registration?
Thanks lee
My 69t came from SA in 2000, the 2L (T) engine was replaced before it came into the UK with a 2.2L (T) The body has not been modified at all as far as I now and still looks like a narrow body.
Would it keep the original registration?
Thanks lee
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+1gridgway wrote:Well (just my view), you'd be insane to do a project to try and make your car iva compliant on the basis of a what might be. Unless you wanted to anyway.
We know two things as far as I can see.
1 the MoT change where you'll have to declare your car's fitness for being MoT exempt
2 DVLA/DVSA poo in the mega-modded hot rod world with some real-world examples.
However, the connection between the two that all (or even a subset of) modded historics will have their V5s revoked and need an IVA test is conjecture.
Why would you not wait and see?
Graham
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I look pretty young but I'm just backdated yeah
I look pretty young but I'm just backdated yeah
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Sorry for the slight 'detour' but I have to strongly disagree with that statement.911hillclimber wrote: Converting to LHD would be possible for me, but it makes imho a safe car a dangerous car. That is not my welding skills but the use of a LHD car in a RHD country.
I have owned many, many LHD cars of many different makes over the past 40+ years & driven many thousands of miles - including 7 years daily commuting to central London - & never found it a problem ...
Andy
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