The new grand Bentley

mycar · Post by **mycar** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:02 pm

cubist wrote: can't see it having much of a turning circle unless it's on bags

It`s no good, I just can`t let it lie.... what are bags?

Mike.

johndglynn · Post by **johndglynn** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:28 pm

One of my first lottery cars would be a Brooklands in Blue Black - love those things.

Gary71 · Post by **Gary71** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:59 pm

smallspeed wrote:if i had the money my 1-off commission would be for something along these lines (forward to bentley management to be considered for the facelift model )

1) Traditional Bentley/Royce 6.75 litre v8, 2 valves per cyl, 1 big supercharger, and a 3-speed waft-box; If I had a Bentley I wouldn't be arsed with my car changing gear all the time, so just give me three gears; "town" "country" and "you're going down" for traffic light dashes (or maybe a CVT)

Check (almost). ..and with so many gears you won't notice it changing

2) A bonnet longer than a party political broadcast with a big silver B on the front (for "Ben".. or it could stand for "Bentley" too I suppose)

Check. You can see that bit it the clip.

3) Big diamond cut wheels hewn from solid lumps of steel, each weighing around the same as a hot-hatch for steamrollering the bumps out of the road

Check. Although we use a special heavy aluminium:)

4) A roof and tail line so swoopy it creates no disruption to the air as the car passes through it

Check.

5) A stereo based around a pair of class A valve amplifiers designed and made by someone who understands there's more to music than bass and treble

Check (sort of!)

6) Classic styling so British its borderline invisible yet impossible to ignore

Check

7) Black handbeaten bodywork on the outside, darkest oxblood or brown leather on the inside

If sir would like we can accommodate

cubist · Post by **cubist** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:10 pm

what are bags?

Mike.

Airbags. As in all the best dormobiles, old lady step-up buses and parked kustoms... as opposed to a Sir Cliff bag for wayward bladder control

fourteener · Post by **fourteener** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:15 pm

mycar wrote: It`s no good, I just can`t let it lie.... what are bags?
Mike.

Yeah -what he said
(I'm guessing at some kind of ride adjustable air suspension )

Matt black70 · Post by **Matt black70** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:23 pm

Gary,you know you were thinking of borrowing a car for Goodwood

Gary71 · Post by **Gary71** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:41 am

smallspeed · Post by **smallspeed** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:03 am

for all you need to know about bags..
www.lowriderforum.com

smallspeed · Post by **smallspeed** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:10 am

Gary71 wrote:Check (almost). ..and with so many gears you won't notice it changing

bit of an aside, but how come manufacturers are going crazy with gears at the moment; merc have a 7sp auto, i heard bmw are going for 8 or 9 in their next dsg/auto? and i think the new lexus m3-a-like has 8 too..

does it not get to the point where a CVT is better, or are they still too inefficient, expensive and heavy to be practical? I drove a lexus (shame on me) GS450h a while ago which had one and while it made for a weird experience, it didn't half get a wiggle on accelerating at max power/torque and i imagine it would be fairly efficient cruising at the most efficient revs.. i could see the benefit in something like a bentley/royce where you don't want to hear the engine anyway, but not really in a sports car unless you used CVT as "auto mode" and faked gears for manual (which would be slower)..

any ideas when the grand bentley is being unveiled? as theres no uk motorshow im thinking (hoping) it might be iaa frankfurt?..

cubist · Post by **cubist** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:57 am

smallspeed wrote:for all you need to know about bags..
www.lowriderforum.com

And here too:

http://tinyurl.com/muksff

Gary71 · Post by **Gary71** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:26 am

smallspeed wrote:
Gary71 wrote:Check (almost). ..and with so many gears you won't notice it changing
bit of an aside, but how come manufacturers are going crazy with gears at the moment; merc have a 7sp auto, i heard bmw are going for 8 or 9 in their next dsg/auto? and i think the new lexus m3-a-like has 8 too..

does it not get to the point where a CVT is better, or are they still too inefficient, expensive and heavy to be practical? I drove a lexus (shame on me) GS450h a while ago which had one and while it made for a weird experience, it didn't half get a wiggle on accelerating at max power/torque and i imagine it would be fairly efficient cruising at the most efficient revs.. i could see the benefit in something like a bentley/royce where you don't want to hear the engine anyway, but not really in a sports car unless you used CVT as "auto mode" and faked gears for manual (which would be slower)..

any ideas when the grand bentley is being unveiled? as theres no uk motorshow im thinking (hoping) it might be iaa frankfurt?..

More gears is all about maximising performance, whilst minimise the dreaded Co2. Also the closer they are the easier the change points are to manage (i.e make smooth).

A CVT hasn't been built yet that would handle the torque

smallspeed · Post by **smallspeed** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:03 pm

Gary71 wrote: A CVT hasn't been built yet that would handle the torque

i'm putting this down as a plus point (for the car, not cvt's

)

impmad2000 · Post by **impmad2000** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:33 pm

Gary71 wrote:A CVT hasn't been built yet that would handle the torque

The rubber band keeps breaking ??

Mike Usiskin · Post by **Mike Usiskin** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:12 pm

got to say, that white thing is horrible, truly foul. quite like the front 'treatment' of the green one, looks a little like a Morgan aero8 which is a good thing IMHO. what is it with Bentleys and footballers, chavs the lot of them