1976 2.7MFI Carrera RS For Sale

9werks · Post by **9werks** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:24 am

Chassis number 9116609073. Professionally rebuilt matching numbers motor and transmission. Excellent condtion. Very rare car - only 123 ever produced for German delivery only. I have posted an advertisement on Pistonheads w/ lots of photos (still can't figure out how to post photos here

). Special car. Priced at 60,000 British pounds and located in Daytona, Florida for easy export.[/img]

Spydermon · Post by **Spydermon** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:41 am

Hi,

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/923932.htm

Ferry Man · Post by **Ferry Man** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:07 am

Nick Moss · Post by **Nick Moss** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:18 am

Interesting! One of the fabled 1976 homologation Carrera RSs that have been discussed at various times on different forums.

left4dead · Post by **left4dead** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:58 am

nick-moss wrote:Interesting! One of the fabled 1976 homologation Carrera RSs that have been discussed at various times on different forums.

So if '74/'75 2.7's were going for £50k last year wouldn't this be quite a good buy for someone at £60k considering the rarity aspect, etc.

Were they actually designated 'RS' from the factory

NigelC210 · Post by **NigelC210** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:53 pm

According to my records there were 123 coupes for 1976.
Chassis nos. 9116609001 to......9123.
Plus 30 Targas.
Not sure if there was any different spec to the '74/75 cars.
Last '76 coupe I saw sold was around 5 years ago by Luzzago in Italy at £16k !
No RS designation.

9werks · Post by **9werks** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:03 pm

Thank you for posting the Pistonheads link!

NigelC210 wrote:According to my records there were 123 coupes for 1976.
Chassis nos. 9116609001 to......9123.
Plus 30 Targas.
Not sure if there was any different spec to the '74/75 cars.
Last '76 coupe I saw sold was around 5 years ago by Luzzago in Italy at £16k !
No RS designation.

Sorry, it was late when I posted this here and on Pistonheads. The correct number of coupes produced is 123. I have owned several Euro Carreras and this type from '76 drives a bit differently. Reminds me of the same concept/feel you have in the comparison between the '80's Carrera vs. Carrera CS. Everything is a bit more raw and with a quicker sense of urgency. The only other 911 with the '9' digit in the chassis number sequence is the 3.0 RS, leading some to claim the 'RS' tag applies here too. For a price point reference I researched and found a restored Orange '76 sold last year by Freisinger Motorsport in Germany for 100,000 euro and another one sold here in the US. It was Brown metallic and had a factory replacement case engine, selling at over $100,000.00 US.

NigelC210 · Post by **NigelC210** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:13 pm

Very interesting!
Of the two coupes I've seen, neither had the RS moniker.
Would seem unusual for the factory to designate them RS, especially as they made 30 Targas.
Does the handbook shed any light on this?
Does it give the weight ?
Just checked and see you have a Carrera 3.0 book.
The orange Freisinger car's history and restoration pics are still on their website.
Good luck with the sale.

left4dead · Post by **left4dead** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:26 pm

Manfred's car looked might fine:

http://www.freisinger-motorsport.de/por ... il/17.html

Lightweight_911 · Post by **Lightweight_911** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:56 pm

The 123 Euro Carrera 2.7 cars built for the 1976 model year were homologated as RS models - in order to allow MFI engines to continue being used in Group 4 racing.

To differentiate these models from the 1976 Carrera 3.0's, Porsche gave them VIN's with a '9' as the 7th digit - ie 9116609XXXX. The '9' signifies a racing model - harking back to the 1974 3.0 RSR models.

NigelC210 · Post by **NigelC210** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:21 pm

Andy
Can you shed any further light here?
I believe they were produced for the German market.
Why only 123 coupes?
If for Group 4 racing purposes why then did they build 30 Targas also with a 9 as the 7th digit in the VINs?
9116619001 to 9116619030

Lightweight_911 · Post by **Lightweight_911** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:42 pm

Yes, they were homologated for the German & Swiss markets.

Racing rules dictated that the induction system had to be the same as that currently available for the production model.

In '76 all existing 911 models were equipped with CIS (Bosch K-jet) - hence the short run of MFI cars to comply with the rules .

Minimum number of identical models for homologation was 100.

I know that certain sources list information stating that 30 Targa versions of the '76 2.7 Carrera were manufactured but I have never seen one & believe that this is a mistake (why would Porsche produce a Targa for racing ?) - but I am willing to be proven wrong ...

9werks · Post by **9werks** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:49 pm

Hi Nigel,

I believe, and with some degree of uncertainty, that those 30 targas were Police cars. Maybe for Belguim? I had been told only factory executives, race drivers, and club racers could order this model, so I don't know how the targas came to be.

Another interesting point - the owners use and care book - the factory did not make special manuals for these 2.7 cars as there were so few cars produced, and the Carrera 3.0 book is correct. The PO for this car wrote to the factory requesting a manual and the president of Porsche took the time to type up and sign a personal response along with this new 3.0 book you see in the photos.

BR,
John

74rsman · Post by **74rsman** » Wed Mar 04, 2009 5:55 pm

RS and rare smelling to me.

Maybe someone who does know their RS from their elbow will pick it up.
I'd like to own it.

Ferry Man · Post by **Ferry Man** » Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:12 pm

red964 wrote:RS and rare smelling to me.
I'd like to own it.

Yes, a rare car. A fine car.
I'd agree it would be nice to own.

Mind you, I've got a 2.7 MFI Carrera and I wouldn't try to claim it's an RS.
Same engine as an RS but not an RS.
Wasn't in '74, nor '75 and likely not in 1976 either.