CLASSIC 911 ROAD TESTS
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Looks like very detailed tests. Shame I can't read Dutch911_2.2T wrote:You can find a US test from 1965 over here:
http://content.us.porsche-clubs.porsche ... 2B005DDF0D
If you navigate on the left hand side, you'll find some more tests and a lot of brochure material. (I know it's in dutch, sorry for that.)
Looking at the points scored in the 2.2S test could you translate the meaning under the summary heading of Motor ( engine I presume )
Geluidsniveau scored just 4.5
and Prestaties scored 9+
Thanks
Richard
“Much of the social history of the Western world over the past three
decades has involved replacing what worked with what sounded good "..
1971 911 2.2T sold
1970 911 2.2S Sold but remains within DDK
1959 Lancia Flaminia PF Coupe
decades has involved replacing what worked with what sounded good "..
1971 911 2.2T sold
1970 911 2.2S Sold but remains within DDK
1959 Lancia Flaminia PF Coupe
test.
Dont all rush at once to translate !
Iv'e just enrolled in the world famous ' Teach yourself Double Dutch in twenty minutes ' school. I can now translate the outline conclusions of the 911 2.2S test.
Marks out of ten
MOTOR
Noise levels 4.5
Torque 6.5
Cold start 8.5
Performance 9.0+
TRANSMISSION
Operation 7.5
synchromesh 6.5
noise 4.5
clutch 7.5
QUALITY
Irradiation 9.0
Thrills 8.5
Forestry Legislation 8.5 :
Value 8.5
Decay 7.0
INTERIOR
View 7.0
Boot 5.0
Finish 8.0
Driving experience 9.0
CONCLUSION
This is naturally an unreasonably expensive motor. Few performance cars can compare with it and its striking at the new Mercedes 350SL and Alfa Romeo Montreal.
A car of this price and performance needs a lot of petrol but we will gladly have one over here mate.
But our logic and intuition says not half of us would want to buy one .
Richkaz Dutch to English translations are now available for a limited introductory price of just £ 40.00 per paragraph ( plus vat.)
Iv'e just enrolled in the world famous ' Teach yourself Double Dutch in twenty minutes ' school. I can now translate the outline conclusions of the 911 2.2S test.
Marks out of ten
MOTOR
Noise levels 4.5
Torque 6.5
Cold start 8.5
Performance 9.0+
TRANSMISSION
Operation 7.5
synchromesh 6.5
noise 4.5
clutch 7.5
QUALITY
Irradiation 9.0
Thrills 8.5
Forestry Legislation 8.5 :
Value 8.5
Decay 7.0
INTERIOR
View 7.0
Boot 5.0
Finish 8.0
Driving experience 9.0
CONCLUSION
This is naturally an unreasonably expensive motor. Few performance cars can compare with it and its striking at the new Mercedes 350SL and Alfa Romeo Montreal.
A car of this price and performance needs a lot of petrol but we will gladly have one over here mate.
But our logic and intuition says not half of us would want to buy one .
Richkaz Dutch to English translations are now available for a limited introductory price of just £ 40.00 per paragraph ( plus vat.)
“Much of the social history of the Western world over the past three
decades has involved replacing what worked with what sounded good "..
1971 911 2.2T sold
1970 911 2.2S Sold but remains within DDK
1959 Lancia Flaminia PF Coupe
decades has involved replacing what worked with what sounded good "..
1971 911 2.2T sold
1970 911 2.2S Sold but remains within DDK
1959 Lancia Flaminia PF Coupe
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I speak dutch french german spanish and am forced to catch up on italian, but I havent got the time at the mo to translate. I did translate an epic carrera 3.0 test a while ago but it requires a long night...
If you can pm me some good resolution scans I'll give it a go.
Bert
If you can pm me some good resolution scans I'll give it a go.
Bert
-1968 912 SWB Targa LHD
-1976 911 Carrera 3.o Targa RHD
-1983 944 190bhp (augment automotive enhanced) RHD
-1979 280SLC manual LHD, 1989 500SL, 1997 SL500, 1989 Jag XJ-s 3.6, old BMW’s
-Ex 1976 911 2.7 Targa, 1979 911 SC, 1983 930,1993 964 C4 Jubi etc
-1976 911 Carrera 3.o Targa RHD
-1983 944 190bhp (augment automotive enhanced) RHD
-1979 280SLC manual LHD, 1989 500SL, 1997 SL500, 1989 Jag XJ-s 3.6, old BMW’s
-Ex 1976 911 2.7 Targa, 1979 911 SC, 1983 930,1993 964 C4 Jubi etc
Many thanks for your kind offer Bert, but I was just interested in the test conclusion and I think I have sussed the general meaning. It goes something likeBertroex wrote:I speak dutch french german spanish and am forced to catch up on italian, but I havent got the time at the mo to translate. I did translate an epic carrera 3.0 test a while ago but it requires a long night...
If you can pm me some good resolution scans I'll give it a go.
Bert
" Half of us wouldn't buy this car because its too expensive, thirsty and noisy but we do like the performace "
Richard
“Much of the social history of the Western world over the past three
decades has involved replacing what worked with what sounded good "..
1971 911 2.2T sold
1970 911 2.2S Sold but remains within DDK
1959 Lancia Flaminia PF Coupe
decades has involved replacing what worked with what sounded good "..
1971 911 2.2T sold
1970 911 2.2S Sold but remains within DDK
1959 Lancia Flaminia PF Coupe
You absolutely got the essence of itrichkaz wrote: Many thanks for your kind offer Bert, but I was just interested in the test conclusion and I think I have sussed the general meaning. It goes something like
" Half of us wouldn't buy this car because its too expensive, thirsty and noisy but we do like the performace "
Richard
Got a 1965 road test that's in english up there too:
http://content.us.porsche-clubs.porsche ... 2B005DDF0D
Compare the max speed ( 136.5 MPH ) and 0 -50 MPH ( 5.6 sec. )acceleration of the 2.0 S in the Motor road test results
from 1967 -69. Remember the 911 has just 2.0 litres
from 1967 -69. Remember the 911 has just 2.0 litres
“Much of the social history of the Western world over the past three
decades has involved replacing what worked with what sounded good "..
1971 911 2.2T sold
1970 911 2.2S Sold but remains within DDK
1959 Lancia Flaminia PF Coupe
decades has involved replacing what worked with what sounded good "..
1971 911 2.2T sold
1970 911 2.2S Sold but remains within DDK
1959 Lancia Flaminia PF Coupe
Road & Track - The Ultimate Cafe Racer
Found this in the history file of my 72T - sorry about the quality but interesting reading.
Martin
Martin
What a great 'sticky' this is, I love reading back through these tests. Thanks RichKaz and MRG!
There was also a great Ferrari/Porsche test in Car about 1974? But it was a 308 against the 911. Can't remember if it was an 's' or an IB car?
Any chance you could fiind that one RichKaz, you've come up trumps with all the others!
Cheers,
Steve.
There was also a great Ferrari/Porsche test in Car about 1974? But it was a 308 against the 911. Can't remember if it was an 's' or an IB car?
Any chance you could fiind that one RichKaz, you've come up trumps with all the others!
Cheers,
Steve.
Hi Steve.There was also a great Ferrari/Porsche test in Car about 1974? But it was a 308 against the 911. Can't remember if it was an 's' or an IB car?
Any chance you could fiind that one RichKaz, you've come up trumps with all the others!
Cheers,
Steve.
If it was a 74 impact bumper test I'm afraid I wouldn't keep it.
I find it fascinating how 'fashion' and hype can change peoples perception of things.
Comparative tests by experienced road testers are usually hype free and give a realistic appraisal of the cars merits when new.
If the testers could have looked 35 years into the future they would probably have been shocked at future desirability and values.
Is a 2.7RS really 10 times better than a Lamborghini Urraco ?Maybe 10 times more desirable for whatever reason in todays market
but according to the contempory test they were pretty well equally desirable.
The Dino Ferrari and 911S seemed well matched at the time of the test but the Dino is now twice as desirable ?
Its a funny old world
Richard
“Much of the social history of the Western world over the past three
decades has involved replacing what worked with what sounded good "..
1971 911 2.2T sold
1970 911 2.2S Sold but remains within DDK
1959 Lancia Flaminia PF Coupe
decades has involved replacing what worked with what sounded good "..
1971 911 2.2T sold
1970 911 2.2S Sold but remains within DDK
1959 Lancia Flaminia PF Coupe